Theology Lab Podcast Episodes

Welcome to the Theology Lab podcast archive, where each episode invites you into honest conversations about faith, theology and questions that animate a curious, courageous kind of faith. Browse recent episodes below, including resources from guests and episode transcripts.

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Tim Mackie: Patterns in the book of Genesis, & Where Discernment Begins

Where does evil come from, and what does the Bible actually teach about good and evil? In this conversation, Tim Mackie of The Bible Project explores the biblical origins of evil through Genesis 1–11, including the stories of Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, the Flood, and the Tower of Babel. Tim explains how the Bible presents evil as a distortion of God's good creation and why understanding Genesis is essential for understanding Jesus, sin, suffering, violence, and the human condition. A thoughtful discussion on biblical theology, Christianity, and the problem of evil.

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BSA Ep. 10 - Mini-Date: How Does Christianity Explain Evil?

Is protest theology a theodicy — or something else entirely? In this episode of Beyond Simple Answers, theologians Scott Rice, Greg Fung, and Kristin T. Lee debate whether protest theology and liberation theology truly qualify as theodicies, or whether they function as responses to evil rather than intellectual solutions to it. The conversation explores the "three-legged stool" of theodicy — God's omnipotence, God's goodness, and the reality of evil — and asks whether protest and liberation theology can hold all three legs at once. A rich, honest discussion for anyone wrestling with faith, suffering, and the problem of evil.

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BSA Ep. 9 - Does a Suffering God Help?

In this final Beyond Simple Answers Q&A, Scott Rice, Greg Fung, and Kristin T. Lee explore some of Christianity’s hardest questions about suffering, evil, prayer, and the presence of God. Can protest be a faithful form of prayer? Why does it matter that Christ suffers with us? And can Christianity truly explain evil?

Drawing from Job, the Psalms, process theology, liberation theology, and personal experiences of grief and loss, this conversation wrestles honestly with faith, doubt, lament, forgiveness, and theodicy. If you’ve ever questioned God in suffering or wondered where God is in death and pain, this episode is for you.

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BSA Ep. 8 - Why Do a Mother and Son See Evil Differently (Part 2)

In this deeply honest episode of Beyond Simple Answers, Scott Rice talks with Jasper Su and his mother, Vivian Su, about Christian faith, doubt, theological questioning, and spiritual growth. Jasper opens up about wrestling with uncertainty, growing up in church, and learning that questioning faith does not make someone a “bad Christian.” Vivian shares the perspective of a parent walking alongside an adult child through difficult spiritual conversations with love, patience, and openness. Together, they explore deconstruction, suffering, God’s presence, and the importance of safe spaces where authentic conversations about faith can happen without fear or judgment.

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BSA Ep. 7 - Is God Good? Why a Mother and Son See Evil Differently

In this powerful bonus episode of Theology Lab’s Beyond Simple Answers series, Scott Rice hosts an honest conversation between Vivian Su and her son, Jasper Su, as they wrestle with Christianity’s hardest question: If God is good and all-powerful, why does suffering exist? Vivian shares how trust in God’s sovereignty gives her peace even amid tragedy, while Jasper candidly explores his struggle to reconcile faith with the reality of evil, pain, and injustice. Together, they discuss the Book of Job, the limits of human understanding, faith versus doubt, and how families can navigate deep theological disagreements with honesty, love, and respect.

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BSA Ep. 6 - How One of Faith's Hardest Questions Has Changed Us

In the final episode of Beyond Simple Answers, Scott Rice, Kristin T. Lee, and Greg Fung reflect on what they’ve learned from exploring why God created a world marked by suffering and evil. The conversation highlights protest theology, liberation theology, process theology, and the importance of holding multiple perspectives in tension rather than settling for simplistic answers. Together, they explore how faith can include wrestling with God, pursuing justice, and trusting in God’s presence amid suffering. Thoughtful, honest, and deeply personal, this episode offers a compelling vision of theology as a relational and ongoing journey toward truth, hope, and spiritual growth.

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BSA Ep. 5 - What Did Job See? Or, Do You Ever Argue With God?

In this Beyond Simple Answers episode Scott, Greg, and Kristin explore the Bible, suffering, creation, and the problem of evil in passages like Philippians 2, the book of Job, Lamentations, and the stories of Hagar and Gethsemane. Returning to previous discussions, they look back at Process and Liberation theology's themes of justice and noncoercive love, as well aa prayer. Why does Job accept God's response? How do believers hold together anger and faith? It's a human conversation, animated by a desire to believe, that looks at suffering, divine power, and faith -- and the many complexities that arise in between in these topics. Beyond Simple Answers episodes are part of Theology Lab. We aim at seeking out a theological vision when simple answers fall aren't enough. And the conversations are geared towards anyone who might be amidst processes like deconstruction and reconstruction of faith, or who just wants curiosity and thinking to play a more important part of your faith life. Thanks for giving some of your time to engage this. We really do appreciate that and hope it might be helpful in some way.

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Is Jesus an Exorcist — and What Does That Mean Now? with Brad East

In this Theology Lab conversation, theologian Brad East explores the biblical concept of salvation through the lens of spiritual warfare, addressing themes like Satan, sin, and cosmic powers. Drawing from the New Testament, including Gospel of Mark and Epistle to the Ephesians, the discussion examines how early Christians understood evil as both personal and systemic. This engaging dialogue helps modern believers navigate discomfort around spiritual language while offering practical insights into faith, discipleship, and confronting evil in everyday life. Ideal for those interested in Christian theology, spiritual warfare, and biblical interpretation.

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BSA Ep. 4 - 5 Theologies of Evil: Evaluation Time!

In this episode, Scott, Greg, and Kristin explore the problem of evil through four major Christian frameworks: protest theodicy, process theology, person-making theodicy, and liberation theology. From questioning God in seasons of suffering to rethinking divine power and human responsibility, the conversation is both deeply personal and intellectually engaging. Kristin reflects on the role of protest and lament, Greg unpacks the logic of process theology, and Scott highlights the biblical roots of wrestling with God. Together, they ask: How should Christians respond to suffering—and what does it mean to trust God in a broken world?

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BSA Ep. 3 - 5 Theologies of Evil: Here We Go!

This episode explores the problem of evil through five major theological frameworks, also known as theodicies. Moving beyond simplistic answers about why God created the world, the discussion introduces classical, protest, process, soul-making, and liberation theologies. Each model wrestles with the tension between divine power and divine goodness in a world marked by suffering. From questioning God’s silence to emphasizing human growth and social justice, these perspectives offer a deeper, more nuanced approach to faith. This primer invites listeners to rethink evil, challenge assumptions, and engage theology in a way that reflects the complexity of real-world pain and belief.

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Kids Ask the Best Theological Questions! Sarah Shin and Shin Maeng, The Great Waking Up

Great Waking Up, co-created with illustrator Shin Maeng, Sarah invites us to reimagine how kids encounter big theological ideas like resurrection, hope, and the character of God. Together, we discuss why children naturally experience faith through story and wonder rather than doctrine—and how parents, caregivers, and faith leaders can support that process. What happens when kids ask hard questions about Jesus, death, or suffering? And how can those questions become the foundation for a deeper, lasting faith rather than something to fear? This conversation offers practical wisdom and fresh insight for anyone passionate about spiritual formation, parenting, and raising children who can thoughtfully and courageously engage their faith as they grow.

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BSA Ep. 2 - Unsettled: (Personally) Wrestling with Evil and God’s Goodness

This Theology Lab episode dives into the problem of evil, God’s goodness, and Christian faith in a broken world. Scott, Kristin, and Greg explore theodicy, suffering, and belief through personal stories and theological reflection. As part of a series on creation, evil, and suffering, this episode asks a central question: can we trust in God’s goodness despite pain and loss? Listeners will discover insights on faith, doubt, and the teachings of Jesus while engaging difficult questions that deepen spiritual understanding and resilience. Perfect for those wrestling with faith, suffering, and the meaning of evil today in a complex cultural context.

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BSA Ep. 1 -What Do You Do When Answers to Suffering and Evil Aren’t Enough?

In this first episode of Theology Lab’s Beyond Simple Answers, listeners are invited into an honest exploration of one of life’s most difficult questions: why does God allow suffering and evil? Rather than offering simplistic explanations, the conversation embraces curiosity, theological depth, and lived human experience. Through thoughtful dialogue, the hosts examine how faith persists amid doubt, and why unresolved questions can still lead to spiritual growth. This episode sets the tone for a series committed to nuanced Christian theology, encouraging listeners to engage Scripture, wrestle with complexity, and pursue a more resilient, reflective, and authentic faith.

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BSA: Intro - Beyond Simple Answers: A New Series!

What happens when simple answers aren’t enough for the big questions of faith? In the first episode of Beyond Simple Answers, a theology podcast from Theology Lab, hosts Scott Rice, Kristin T. Lee, and Greg Fung explore how Christians can pursue thoughtful faith in a complex world. The conversation addresses faith, doubt, biblical interpretation, suffering, and the role of theology in everyday Christian life. Encouraging curiosity, honest dialogue, and spiritual growth, this Christian podcast invites listeners to wrestle with difficult questions about God, Scripture, and discipleship while building unity across theological differences.

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“Why Don’t They Get It?” Brian McLaren and Drew Jackson

Theology Lab welcomes Brian McLaren and Drew Jackson for a thought-provoking conversation on Christian faith, bias, and division in today’s polarized culture. They examine the hidden psychological and political forces that shape moral judgment, asking why believers so often assume others knowingly choose what is wrong. The discussion explores how community loyalty, identity, and ideology influence Christian relationships and deepen conflict within the church. Drawing inspiration from contemplative spirituality and the call of Jesus to love, humility, and reconciliation, they challenge listeners to question assumptions, confront bias, and pursue a path toward unity and faithful discipleship.

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What do you do with differences (contradictions?) in the Bible? 2 Views, Scott Rice & Paul Domigan

In this episode of Theology Lab, Scott Rice and Dr. Paul Domigan explore one of the most challenging questions in Christian faith: what do we do with tensions or apparent contradictions in the Bible? Through a candid, spontaneous conversation, they compare two different approaches to reading Scripture and interpreting difficult passages. From Exodus and Ezekiel to Proverbs and Job, they discuss how Christians can wrestle with biblical differences without losing faith. Instead of seeing conflict in Scripture as a threat, they suggest it can become an invitation to deeper reflection, spiritual growth, and a richer relationship with God.

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Reading the Bible on Turtle Island: Part 1 (of 2)

A Theology Lab interview with H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe. The authors explore Indigenous interpretations of scripture, highlighting the intersection of Christian faith and ancestral heritage. Through two and a half years of immersive travel, engaging with Indigenous leaders, ministers, and communities across the U.S. and Canada, they reveal how biblical stories illuminate Indigenous life and ceremonies. The book emphasizes asset-based theology, cultural reclamation, and the ongoing impact of scripture on Indigenous Christians. Ideal for theological students, pastors, and curious readers, it bridges Indigenous spirituality, biblical scholarship, and the rich history of Turtle Island.

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Immigration and Refugee Resettlement Today, with the President of World Relief, Myal Greene

In this Theology Lab interview Scott talks to Myal Greene, the president and CEO of World Relief, an international humanitarian organization on the topics of immigration, refugee resettlement, and current issues. Their conversation covers how immigration and refugee resettlement connect to faith, spirituality and how Christians read the Bible. Myal offers a thoughtful perspective on not only World Relief's response to the immigration and refugee issues of our time but also how everyday Christians can think with nuance and theologically about these important topics.

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