In this Theology Lab conversation, Kristin Kobes Du Mez and Walter Kim explore evangelicalism, masculinity, and Christian identity, focusing on the American church. Drawing from Jesus and John Wayne, they discuss how rugged masculinity, power, and nationalism have often overshadowed the gentleness, compassion, and courage of Christ. Kim reflects on the many “rooms” within evangelicalism—some hospitable, some hostile—while Du Mez challenges rigid gender binaries and calls believers back to deeper theological reflection. Together, they model respectful disagreement, historical honesty, and hopeful dialogue. This discussion asks: What have Christians traded for power, and what might faithful witness look like now?